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All the king’s horses, and all the king’s men…

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Sometimes the best laid plans of musicians and men often go awry. As a music industry veteran (and still under 40 years old!), I’ve seen lots of artists and companies emerge with huge plans to revolutionize the industry only to see reality come crashing in. Most of the time it’s caused by a failure to understand the industry or by over-estimating their own abilities. But since not every painter is Picasso, we trudge on in our quest to improve and educate the industry one musician at a time. Blissfully, everywhere we turn there are diamonds in the rough.

A full disclaimer: I’ve worked with multiple music companies, played in bands, managed artists, and consulted with countless musicians and businesses. I feel confident speaking my mind as I’ve been both burned and lauded by this industry more times than I can count.

Here then, an all too common tale of the biz.

Over on the west coast, Ian Rogers decided to wade into the music management waters. As Topspin’s CEO, he rightly deduced that “being the CEO of Topspin and not having experience managing a band is like running Flickr and not taking photos.”  In that regard, he is entirely correct. Again, congrats to Ian on deciding to wade into this murky, yet enticing, water.

Ian’s chosen band is the “Get Busy Committee,” and he laid out his plan to get them rich and/or famous under his stewardship. That plan consisted of hiring a publicity company, marketing agency, web designer, web developer, and they came up with a nifty merch item (an Uzi shaped USB drive!). They also hired a lawyer to review contracts and keep an eye on potential opportunities. And of course, they’ll use Topspin for their marketing and distribution coupled with Kufala to do on-demand physical music sales and fulfillment.

All things considered, Ian and the GBC have an impressive team around them. They successfully identified their needs and put everything in place to make the magic happen. If only every band had the same opportunity.

See, that’s where I become just a tad disenchanted with what Ian’s doing. The team and products he put together for the Get Busy Committee come with a pretty solid price tag. At the very least, you’re looking at an easy $25K to get it all off the ground. How many bands have that kind of cash to get started with? And really, do we think that having Ian Rogers as your manager won’t open a few doors? Of course it does.

So with that money, and that team, what happened? The short answer appears to be not much.

After promising to make regular updates about the progress of GBC, nothing significant has been posted since late November. As of this writing (late January 2010) Get Busy Committee has 1,712 fans on Facebook, 3,283 MySpace friends, and 1,144 followers on Twitter. Not bad for a DIY’er, but with that whole team and money behind you, I’d wonder what happened. In comparison, other indie artists like Chase Coy, has over 100,000 MySpace friends, and did this on no big money, or big connections.

And while music sales aren’t published, it stands to reason that their team would justifiably broadcast the fact that they’re selling tens of thousands of discs/tracks/Uzi shaped USB sticks. But Ian and his team have gone oddly silent on the Get Busy Committee.

The message here? Breaking into the music business isn’t easy. It’s about more than just money, connections, or even sheer talent. It’s about persistence, uniqueness, and building upon your fan base over time — luck, in this industry, is when preparation meets opportunity. As such, it can take years to become an overnight sensation. Topspin has become the industry darling because of Ian Roger’s reputation as a rockstar CEO. He’s parlayed his contacts into getting some great talent on board including truly iconic musicians. But the ideas and concepts behind Topspin are the same that others have been espousing for quite a while now. I find it disappointing, but not all that surprising, that our industry has suddenly crowned a new messiah who’s speaking the words of multiple prophets that came before him. From Nimbit, to Mike Masnick, to any campaigning politician, Direct to Fan concepts are about as new as bell bottoms and disco balls.

But does Topspin create successful musicians, or are already successful musicians driving Topspin’s growth? What are emerging artists (who likely lack the budget of a Get Busy Committee) gaining from Topspin when GBC can’t seem to capitalize on it?

When you hear them say “Topspin: It Fuckin’ Works,” ask yourself … for who!?

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  • Scott – I think you have some legitimate points here. Full disclosure, I am an instructor of the Online Marketing with Topspin course at the Berklee Online school.

    I'm also a Topspin Certified Consultant but my response here is, I hope unbiased.

    First – “Breaking into the music business isn't easy.” — This is very true. It's also hard to become a Blog with hundreds of daily readers. It's hard to start a business and make money.

    I think you've pointed to why things succeed or fail in this regard:

    “After promising to make regular updates about the progress of GBC, nothing significant has been posted since late November. “

    I don't know if GBC has succeeded — I don't know how they defined their success. If you are right in saying that if they had succeeded, we'd have heard from them then should that lack of success be placed on the use or non-use of Topspin?

    I don't think it should. I'm not sure it should even be placed on Ian or the team he put together. I hope they respond and clarify if they feel they've succeded or not btw.

    I think you've also answered your own question:

    “When you hear them say “Topspin: It Fuckin’ Works,” ask yourself …. for who!?”

    Your answer is further up in the post – Topspin works for artists who as you rightly say execute on:

    “persistence, uniqueness, and building upon your fan base over time – luck, in this industry, is when preparation meets opportunity.”

    I think Topspin makes executing on that far easier than other solutions I've seen and I do stay up on the competition. In my opinion it's still the best tool out there for getting the job done.

    But you and all your readers know that you can put the best microphones use the best studio but if the performance is lacking — all the right tools don't make a difference.

    That's not to say they are not important though. A great performance comes to life better when the right tools, the right team and a great performance from the artist all come together.

    Please email me back and I'd be happy to explain more on what I mean but I promised to not be (too) biased in this response.

    Thanks for posting this up. It is very important for everyone to look through the hype.

  • Hi Scott,

    Just saw Jason's tweet which led me to your post…

    The real reason I went dark is because I've been busy as hell, both with Topspin and Get Busy Committee. I have a half-written blog post which gives an update on the GBC project, I'm hoping to finish it up this weekend now that I'm home from MIDEM.

    Bottom line is you're about right-on in terms of cost of the project over the life of the project, though we haven't spent that much yet. Also, we've actually already made more than we've spent, which is not a bad way to start.

    We have a ton of GBC stuff coming up. I'll try to get back to talking more about it now that the holidays are over. But the fact is I'm trying to juggle a CEO gig, a family, and actually do stuff for the band, not just blog about it. So no promises on how prolific I'll be here. Please don't read any more into it.

    Not sure if you noticed but a week and a half ago we sold a 12″ via kickstarter for $1000. Also, we sold out of the first 1200 USB Uzis (which was totally unexpected for me) and I had to order more. Plus fans have been doing a ton of remixes, we have a video coming soon, the band is playing SXSW and a few other shows finally, etc. That was the impetus of my most recent half-written blog post which I hope to hit publish on this weekend.

    Another important point: no one at Topspin apart from me is working on this. This is 100% side project for me for exactly the reasons I laid out in my post. This is not a “Topspin Project”. I can see how you might think we'd be putting some juice behind it but we're not. I am, in my spare time, which hasn't been enough. But I'm hoping to find more now that the craziness of January is done.

    The real upshot of your post could be: don't have a manager who has a day job. Fact is I'm too busy to be a great manager let alone a great blogger. I wish I had time to man one of those Twitter desktop apps which accumulates followers, do more blog posts and outreach, etc.

    But to be honest I already consider this project a success and I feel like we're just getting started. I'd argue we're proving it works with GBC. ROI-positive with a band who until October had ZERO web presence? No twitter accounts, no email addrs, no web site — not bad for three months IMHO.

    My request is you don't be so quick to judge and maybe give me a call so I can give you the facts first next time. I'm easy to find.

    But you're touching on an important point: Topspin *isn't* for everyone. Reverb Nation has hundreds of thousands of artists today. Topspin has 200. By the end of 2010 I'd like to have 1000 artists. Our target market is artists who can make $5000/year or more direct to fan. Get Busy Committee did this in less than a month, so this bar isn't set particularly high, but it definitely isn't meant to be everyone. The band I played guitar for in high school should hang out on MySpace for a while before coming to Topspin, for example.

    Scott, please give me a call if you want any clarification here.

    ian

  • Ian – Thanks for your reply! I'm impressed that you took the time to respond. My purpose in this post was two (or three…) fold:

    1. To dispel the notion that success comes instantly via any single component (money, talent, connections)

    2. To show that “Direct to Fan” is something that existed before Topspin, and perhaps is actually handled better by others companies and individuals

    3. That your management of GBC isn't without flaws. Specifically your silence on their (lack of?) success is demonstrative of Topspin's ability to drive success for artists without the marquee value of a Paul McCartney, Beastie Boys, David Byrne, etc.

    4. Ian's promise to regularly update the public on his experiences with GBC wasn't met — so the assumption is when there wasn't success, there weren't updates. However, no success (and why…) merits an equally important update that we could all learn from. Committments and distractions are common to everyone — and that too is a point well worth sharing!

    I fully admit that I could be wrong on any of these assertions, but when I look at the tools offered by Topspin, Nimbit, Bandcamp, and a host of other companies, I try to strip away the marketing (which I'm as guilty of creating as anyone!), and see what really (fuckin') works.

    I'll definitely give you a call – it'd be great to speak with you. Any chance you'd email/DM me a number? Tweet to @scottefeldman …. thanks!

  • I'm just bummed that when I finally post this blog post on Sunday it's going to look like a response to this! Ha! I'll send you the half-written post, Scott, so you can see it wasn't. 😉

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